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I've said some nasty, indiscriminate things about "Mormons" before, as though they're this monolithic bloc of narcissists who all caused me personal pain. But after a few years of reflection, I feel like I have more in common with the progressive Mormons on sites like Feminist Mormon Housewives and Young Mormon Feminists, than I do with the antitheists in places like exmormon reddits. All three of us picked and chose which doctrines to keep when we disaffected from the orthodox Mormon church, and a lot of the "exmos" I've seen kept some of Mormonism's worst aspects; the need to be "right" at all costs, the smug sense of certainty, the elevation of personal epiphanies to the status of universal truths, and the emphasis on purity and conformity over humaneness.

In contrast, the feminists of Ordain Women and their supporters have been trying, really hard, to make an inhumane institution more hospitable for marginalized people. For women, children, LGBT persons, and everyone that institutional Mormonism leaves out. And right now, with this blow that comes directly from people they've all been taught to admire and practically worship, they're hurting.

They're hurting a lot.

I know a lot more of them are going to leave over this. I wish that wasn't the case, not because I think institutional Mormonism deserves their talent and support (it doesn't) but because I know what it's like to do that. It's one of the most painful things that I had to do, and I still haven't recovered after more than four years on the outside. I still follow what's going on with them, and who's being affected and hurt. And I hope, and pray to Inari, that there will be a soft landing for those who have to choose this for their and their children's sake.

I hope they find true friends and families of choice, and are appreciated for who they are, and not how well they fit into a lie. About divinity, about this world, and about everyone in it.

Date: 2014-06-24 11:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redsixwing
Oh. Oh dear. (I can't seem to words just now about how that is terrible, but that is terrible.)

I hope they can find a good place, too.

Date: 2014-06-27 03:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] burning_ground
I read through some of the comments on those articles, and omg those people are scary. You can choose to follow Monson or you can choose to follow someone else; choose wisely? GROSS.

GROSS GROSS GROSS.

Is the Mormon leadership akin to some kind of divinity in human form for the church?

Date: 2014-06-27 06:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] burning_ground
AHHHHH GROSS.

Like, I've got nothing against one stating that they have divine elements about them, or being a part of any divinity. That kind of perception appears to be perfectly normal for a lot of people, and it isn't the kind of thing that leads to spiritual abuse...

But, *this*. Combined with the theatrical elements of Mormonism and everything, oh wow is this ever creepy as hell, at least to me... Insisting that select living prophets speak for the only divinity in all of existence, and by the way this is YOUR DIVINITY you cannot question it! Monson basically = your divinity!

Monson weirds me the hell out anyway, even without all of that.

Aahhhh *chills* GROSS.

Date: 2014-06-27 06:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] burning_ground
Huh, that was the same thing with those comments: it was all about who's following whom. Like, people don't think for themselves, they only choose whom they follow.

Weeeiiiird.

I suppose technically people who think for themselves might technically be following Satan or something... *shrug*

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